Retarder

  • 10/06/2026 11:27 AM
    Message # 13731537

    I have a 2017 33 DP Pace Arrow with the Cummins 6.7.

    Does it have an exhaust brake or just a transmission retarder ?

    Or maybe both ?

    The Transmission down shifts when the retarder switch is on, but i dont feel the exhaust brake kicking in .

  • 10/06/2026 1:29 PM
    Reply # 13731707 on 13731537

    You technically have both, although the "exhaust" brake is actually a VGT or sliding turbo vane. It uses changes in the turbo geometry to create back pressure the way a traditional exhaust or Jake brake does. The Allison transmission controller also will downshift more aggressively to help slow things. 

    One other note, when you have the engine brake switch on and it is activated (decelerating) it turns your brake lights on even if you aren't using the brakes. 

    j

  • 10/21/2026 3:31 PM
    Reply # 13756102 on 13731707
    Jim Thomas wrote:

    You technically have both, although the "exhaust" brake is actually a VGT or sliding turbo vane. It uses changes in the turbo geometry to create back pressure the way a traditional exhaust or Jake brake does. The Allison transmission controller also will downshift more aggressively to help slow things. 

    One other note, when you have the engine brake switch on and it is activated (decelerating) it turns your brake lights on even if you aren't using the brakes. 

    j

    I have aa feeling the transmission is the only thing coming on ( down shifting when the switch is engaged) yes the brake lights do come on.
    I am taking it to the Freightliner shop next week and see what they say.
    FYI:
    I have a 2013 Cummins powered ram and i can definetly feel when the VGT engages.  
    More details soon.

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