No running lights on 2018 pace arrow 33D

  • 10/08/2021 6:15 PM
    Message # 11208662

    I have no running lights.

    But my turn signals work , emergency flasher works and brake lights all work.

    front clearance lights work too.

    i have checked fuses , even replaced running light fuse.


    any suggestions ?

  • 10/09/2021 11:35 AM
    Reply # 11233773 on 11208662
    Pete Baker (Administrator)

    Assuming your headlights work as well.   Any possibility your ICC switch is stuck in the interrupt position?

    This is the switch next to the driver to flash running lights as a courtesy to other drivers  for lane change thank you and such.  

  • 10/10/2021 10:11 PM
    Reply # 11294635 on 11208662

    Hi Pete,

    Yes the headlights work as do the clearance lights on the front cap.

    the ICC switch does actuate the front caps clearance lights.

    i replaced the ICC fuse just incase, no change.

    the rear running lights do not come on and none of the side markers , clearance lights, past the front cap back work.

    plus when pulling out trailer it does not have running lights, but the trailer has turn and brake lights just like the coach.

    i found two fuse boxes in the drivers side front out side conpartment, checked all fuses. Nothing is blown.

    Ccould there be another fuse box i am missing ? I havent found a fuse box that controls the headlights or brake and turn signals. 
    any idea where that could be ?

    Thank you,

    bret


  • 10/11/2021 10:49 AM
    Reply # 11324429 on 11208662
    Pete Baker (Administrator)

    I don't know enough about the light wiring or fuse locations to be helpful.   After checking the ICC switch, my next stop would be to check the wiring on the coach that goes to the tow connection.  

    There is a box called the Battery Control Center (BCC) it is full of all kinds of goodies.  It is usually found close to the chassis battery.  Whether that be under your hood or in a back bay, it's worth a look.  

    Wish I could be of more assistance. 

  • 10/11/2021 10:55 AM
    Reply # 11324754 on 11208662
    Bill & Laura Johnson (Administrator)

    If you are on a Freightliner Chassis, there is a recall for lighting problems related to a controller module. You may want to contact them to see if it effects your coach.

  • 10/12/2021 9:28 AM
    Reply # 11391372 on 11208662

    Hmm,

    i will start replacing fuses in the BCC area, many are non labled, and see if that works.

    Plus i will contact Fleetwood about the recall.

    I will post these rests soon.

    Thank you 

    bret

  • 10/12/2021 11:42 PM
    Reply # 11427364 on 11208662

    I looked at the BCC fuses and tested them, all good.

    I also found another fuse box(5 now)  by the engine batteries that had trailer fuses ( all good) but power is going to the trailer running / marker lights fuse.

    I have still not found fuses for headlights , turn, brake or running lights.

    i will try Fleetwood tomorrow.

    this is crazy !



  • 10/15/2021 1:12 PM
    Reply # 11495617 on 11208662
    Bret Gann wrote:

    I have no running lights.

    But my turn signals work , emergency flasher works and brake lights all work.

    front clearance lights work too.

    i have checked fuses , even replaced running light fuse.


    any suggestions ?

    update:

    I spoke with Fleetwood " Not our issue, try Freightliner as its there electrical connection"

    Called Freightliner cust serv, we walked through the fuses in the PDM box by the engine batteries (  the Running /Trailer Marker lights fuse and relay are also running the coaches running and side marker lights )

    None the less the fuse change and relay change had no effect. 

    The PDM is faulty.

    The PDM is under a recall # FL861A and FL856B.

    Now i have to schedule a drop off to the local dealer.

    More updates soon.


  • 10/21/2021 12:19 AM
    Reply # 11693203 on 11208662

    Freightliner replaced the PDM under recall, but the tailights and side markers still dont work.

    so… i started checking connections and ultimately the bulbs themselves , and found a burned out tail light bulb, put a new one in , turned on the running lights and it blew ! Took the socket out snd found the wires connected to the socket were shorting causing the string of running and side lights to stop working. Fixed the short ( heat shrink)  and ta da ! All lights work.

    a frustrating issue, but maybe others can learn from this.



     

     


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